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the fbi says they were planning to join al qaeda and the taliban in violent jihad. authorities say they have been making arrangements over skype to head to afghanistan for stage one terror training like the training in this taliban video. american military staff and bases overseas allegedly were among their targets. authorities say they were caught after divulging their plans to someone who turned out to be an fbi informant. >>> she's known as the soccer mom madam. and today anna christina got a jail sentence for her crimes. she was let go for time served and good behavior because she spent four months at new york's rikers island. she is the suburban mom of four who ran a multimillion dollar prostitution ring on new york's wealthy upper east side. >>> there is a lot going on in israel and the middle east. there say lot more coverage coming. and up next, we will have special coverage of breaking news from the middle east, and that begins right now. >>> i'm anderson cooper reporting from gaza city. i welcome our viewers on cnn in the united states and watching around
the fbi says they were planning to join al qaeda and the taliban in violent jihad. authorities say they have been making arrangements over skype to head to afghanistan for stage one terror training like the training in this taliban video. american military staff and bases overseas allegedly were among their targets. authorities say they were caught after divulging their plans to someone who turned out to be an fbi informant. >>> she's known as the soccer mom madam. and today anna...
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the fbi has arrested four california men who allegedly planned to join al qaeda and the taliban. the men are charged with plotting violent jihad against americans overseas. a house explosion that damaged 8 homes is now a homicide investigation. police have yet to name a suspect. >>> no more nudity in san francisco. city officials will vote later today on an ordinance that could permanently ban public nudity but there would be certain exemptions. apparently chimps and orangutans can experience midlife crisis like humans. the suggestions or the root cause of mid-life crisis could be biological. >>> and the 2012 treetoper for the rockefeller center christmas tree was unveiled this hour. it includes 25,000 crystals and weighs a whopping 550 pounds. quite a mega star. another business win. i'll set up the video conference to iron out the details. this cdw cloud collaboration powered by cisco is pretty amazing. we interact with our offices, anywhere, anytime. charles, you're one of the greatest losers of all time. thank you. throughout our lives. one a day women's 50+ is a complete mul
the fbi has arrested four california men who allegedly planned to join al qaeda and the taliban. the men are charged with plotting violent jihad against americans overseas. a house explosion that damaged 8 homes is now a homicide investigation. police have yet to name a suspect. >>> no more nudity in san francisco. city officials will vote later today on an ordinance that could permanently ban public nudity but there would be certain exemptions. apparently chimps and orangutans can...
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the fbi was alerted to the case after an associate of the men turned them in. the fbi claims the alleged terror cell had conducted training, including going to shooting ranges and were planning to travel to afghanistan to bomb and kill u.s. soldiers. it appears to have been more than just talk. authorities claim the men had bought tickets to fly to mexico and then on to afghanistan. and there's more evidence of the power of the internet to create terrorism. the men had been studying online, the teachings of anwar al awlaki, killed by a u.s. drone in yemen in 2011. apparently even in death, al awlaki remains lethal. >> a grim reminder. thank you for that. >>> meanwhile, new hope for our 401(k)s this morning. wall street has reversed course. staging the biggest rally in two months, gaining more than 200 points. investors growing more optimistic that the government will be able to avoid that so-called fiscal cliff of tax increases and spending cuts looming at year's end. also, home sales are picking up. builder confidence said to be at the highest level in some 6
the fbi was alerted to the case after an associate of the men turned them in. the fbi claims the alleged terror cell had conducted training, including going to shooting ranges and were planning to travel to afghanistan to bomb and kill u.s. soldiers. it appears to have been more than just talk. authorities claim the men had bought tickets to fly to mexico and then on to afghanistan. and there's more evidence of the power of the internet to create terrorism. the men had been studying online, the...
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the fbi should be investigating torture rather than american love affairs. this is something that really struck me. we have had to once of controversy about libya and what happened there. what happened there was bad. it was bad. four americans were killed. hundreds of security contractors were killed in iraq. i have written two books on iraq and i have never been able to figure out an exact number. the answer is no one cares and no one seems to kill stair. -- still. the official tally leaves out at least 57 incidents that we know about. the tally is quite suspect. this puts aside the foreign security contractors, south africans, costa ricans. there seems to be no tally of this at all and nobody cares. i have got to wonder how much of the mess in benghazi is simply fueled by fox news, poisoning the american bloodstream. it really bothers me. i compare that to the total carelessness about the deaths of security contractors in iraq. >> thomas ricks writes a blog on foreign policies website. ricks. foreignpolicy.com. he is the author of many books, including a n
the fbi should be investigating torture rather than american love affairs. this is something that really struck me. we have had to once of controversy about libya and what happened there. what happened there was bad. it was bad. four americans were killed. hundreds of security contractors were killed in iraq. i have written two books on iraq and i have never been able to figure out an exact number. the answer is no one cares and no one seems to kill stair. -- still. the official tally leaves...
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they were arrested after the fbi uncovered their plans to engage in, quote, violent jihad. authorities say the four plan to join and train with al qaeda and the taliban in afghanistan. indiana police now believe an explosion that leveled several homes was no accident. they've opened up a homicide investigation. two people were killed and seven others injured in the november 10th explosion at the richmond hills subdivision. texts are now searching for a white van that was spotted in the neighborhood shortly before the blast. >>> republican congressman allen west has conceded defeat to democratic challenger patrick murphy. that's in the race for florida's 18th congressional district. west who is a tea party favorite released a statement this morning saying quote, while any questions remain unanswered today i am announcing that i will take no further action to contest the outcome of this election. final results of a recount sunday put murphy ahead of west by over 1900 votes. >>> the latest now in the petraeus sex scandal. we'll be hearing from tampa socialite jill kelley's twi
they were arrested after the fbi uncovered their plans to engage in, quote, violent jihad. authorities say the four plan to join and train with al qaeda and the taliban in afghanistan. indiana police now believe an explosion that leveled several homes was no accident. they've opened up a homicide investigation. two people were killed and seven others injured in the november 10th explosion at the richmond hills subdivision. texts are now searching for a white van that was spotted in the...
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and you also had the experience at one point of having your phone tapped by the fbi. >> it was a home phone. >> once the director of the aclu, director of the washington, d.c., we talked about the petraeus scandal, what had gone on there and the fbi investigating that whole thing. when you say that unfold, there were a lot of questions about whether the fbi had gone too far, in terms of what it did. what was your take on that from the civil liberties point of view. >> well, i think it underscored what i think this is a very serious problem i think we have to deal with. our e-mails are not protected. we all think our own information is protected from the government and at least they need a warrant. but the fact is, the supreme court said a long time ago that if your records are in somebody else's possession, at that time, they were talking about bank records. but if your e-mails are at google or yahoo or wherever, in the cloud somewhere, and they don't have to get a warrant. they just go to the company and say give us the records and most of the times the companies do give the records.
and you also had the experience at one point of having your phone tapped by the fbi. >> it was a home phone. >> once the director of the aclu, director of the washington, d.c., we talked about the petraeus scandal, what had gone on there and the fbi investigating that whole thing. when you say that unfold, there were a lot of questions about whether the fbi had gone too far, in terms of what it did. what was your take on that from the civil liberties point of view. >> well, i...
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>> well, that's a good question, especially on the fbi side because fbi agents are shocked that it appears that politics has entered into fbi decisions on the timing of the investigation. it just happened to end on the very day after the election, and during that time, during those months, petraeus was left in office and could have been compromised, could have been blackmailed, and so the administration was taking a risk that that might happen. that's one of the most serious aspects of this whole matter. >> guys, good to see you. thanks for being with us. >>> coming up, what's the president's real agenda when it comes to the so-called fiscal cliff? is he really hoping for resolution. >>> defending susan rice, the head of the congressional black caucus is labeling the ambassador's critics as racist and sexist and she's specifically calling out senator john mccain. we'll examine the latest use of the race ca card and the so-cald the race ca card and the so-cald war on [ malannouncer ] it'that time of year again. time for cii price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle t
>> well, that's a good question, especially on the fbi side because fbi agents are shocked that it appears that politics has entered into fbi decisions on the timing of the investigation. it just happened to end on the very day after the election, and during that time, during those months, petraeus was left in office and could have been compromised, could have been blackmailed, and so the administration was taking a risk that that might happen. that's one of the most serious aspects of...
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>> the fbi and other bodies in the united states are engaged in law enforcement measures. we need that as a first resource. >> jennifer: are you comfortable at least that talks with respect to hamas and israel have at least begun in terms of a cease fire? but it hasn't worked. >> unfortunately, human history is replete with incident of violence escalation of violence and warfare and we don't deny that there are situations where the united states has legitimate basis of using the force. we haven't declared war on pakistan, though. >> jennifer: of course not but if you have had high-level al-qaeda targets, and a drone can take out that target instead of risking u.s. lives, don't you think that is not a bad thing? >> let me answer your question by giving a broader context, what the studies show is the vast majority of drone strikes don't hit those high-level targets. the majority of those kills are much lower-level operatives or civilians, and one of the things we need to think about is what happens when the united states is killing hundreds of people in northwest pakistan. h
>> the fbi and other bodies in the united states are engaged in law enforcement measures. we need that as a first resource. >> jennifer: are you comfortable at least that talks with respect to hamas and israel have at least begun in terms of a cease fire? but it hasn't worked. >> unfortunately, human history is replete with incident of violence escalation of violence and warfare and we don't deny that there are situations where the united states has legitimate basis of using...
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the fbi's role, the fbi as you know wears two hats. they have a criminal responsibility as well as a national security responsibility. and the fbi's role is really looking domestically to gather intelligence and mitigate the threat. and the fbi does that in a variety of ways, clicking intelligence, sharing it with others and government sharing it with the private sector. the primary goal really trying to attribute he was conducting these attacks but is it a criminal group? is a nationstate? is it a terrorist group? >> host: how is the fbi performing? >> guest: i think the fbi is performing as was again under the circumstances. i've said that we're not winning the fight although we've won many battles but we are not winning long-term because the offense outpaces the defense. the sophisticated adversaries are becoming more sophisticated. there are more groups, adversarial groups that are getting online because of the value of the data. it's incredibly valuable and because of that many of these groups are moving their criminal enterprises
the fbi's role, the fbi as you know wears two hats. they have a criminal responsibility as well as a national security responsibility. and the fbi's role is really looking domestically to gather intelligence and mitigate the threat. and the fbi does that in a variety of ways, clicking intelligence, sharing it with others and government sharing it with the private sector. the primary goal really trying to attribute he was conducting these attacks but is it a criminal group? is a nationstate? is...
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and the fbi and the cia and that might have something to do with it. it is a situation that has turned tampa, and again, we have seen it on "saturday night live" running the humorous skit, but at the heart of it is macdill air force base which is right now observing events in israel, they don't control the military affairs there, but over in egypt as well as the rest of the region, so they have a lot on their mind as well as u.s. special options command and as well as the area that brings in millions off dollars into the local community. so it is a mandate to engage with the community and that is what parts of this "friends with macdill" was. >> well, talk about the probe and how that it is run to investigate and reveal, i guess, how many people around the community have access to the nation's military leaders. >> no, they know. there's about 800 people on the "friends of macdill" program and created by the previous base commanders to get community leaders on to the base in daylight hours and nonsecure areas to engage with the community. what they are
and the fbi and the cia and that might have something to do with it. it is a situation that has turned tampa, and again, we have seen it on "saturday night live" running the humorous skit, but at the heart of it is macdill air force base which is right now observing events in israel, they don't control the military affairs there, but over in egypt as well as the rest of the region, so they have a lot on their mind as well as u.s. special options command and as well as the area that...
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until now we've only seen fbi agents carrying large boxes of classified documents from broadwell's home. her husband, scott, told our affiliate wsoc he had no comment but would be making a statement sometime soon. there's been one, 2 kids, and 43 bottles of olay total effects. so in spite of 185 tantrums 378 pre-dawn starts and a lot of birthdays, caroline still looks amazing. you can challenge what's possible thanks to the trusted performance of olay. 60 years, millions of women, real results. [ "the odd couple" theme playing ] humans. even when we cross our "t"s and dot our "i"s, we still run into problems -- mainly other humans. at liberty mutual insurance, we understand. that's why our auto policies come with accident forgiveness if you qualify, where your rates won't go up due to your first accident, and new car replacement, where if you total your new car, we give you the money for a new one. call... to talk to an insurance expert about everything else that comes standard with our base auto policy. [ tires squeal ] and if you get into an accident and use one of our certified repai
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host: al is the fbi performing? guest: i think it is performing as well as they can under the circumstances. we are not winning the fight although we've month -- we won many battles. the offense outpaces the defense. the sophisticated adversaries are becoming more sophisticated. there are more groups, adversarial groups, that are getting on line because of the value of the data. because of that, many of these groups are moving their criminal enterprises and espionage platforms to the network. the breadth of the thread is getting wider and i don't know that we are able to keep up in terms of capacity. host: in terms of current resources, this is from the year 2012 -- host: let's get to calls in winston salem, north carolina. go ahead caller: with all the information out there, is the internet about to change as we know it in a way that we can protect ourselves in the future? guest: i missed the first part of that. host: he estimates the internet as we know it is changing. guest: i think this is such a broad threat. i
host: al is the fbi performing? guest: i think it is performing as well as they can under the circumstances. we are not winning the fight although we've month -- we won many battles. the offense outpaces the defense. the sophisticated adversaries are becoming more sophisticated. there are more groups, adversarial groups, that are getting on line because of the value of the data. because of that, many of these groups are moving their criminal enterprises and espionage platforms to the network....
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meanwhile, fbi investigators continue to pore over broadwell's computer and boxes of evidence taken from her charlotte home, to determine if she had classified information she was not entitled to possess. differing views of whether the decorated army general needs to resign as the director of the cia after his affair with broadwell became public. >> i come from a tradition that believes in the original sin. none of us is perfect. >> her behavior is not acceptable. it's personally unacceptable behavior. >> reporter: his fall from grace has raised questions about how our generals live and their transition to civilian life. four-star generals like petraeus are vournded surrounded by staff, security, chefs which all appear when the uniforms appear. >> you see the stars, one day he takes all of that off. it is a major adjustment. i think we need to look at this transitioning of people. >> and they went on to add that is no excuse for petraeus' behavior. the senator and leading democrat also wants to know who offered those talking points led by u.n. ambassador rice. and also why it was cut out
meanwhile, fbi investigators continue to pore over broadwell's computer and boxes of evidence taken from her charlotte home, to determine if she had classified information she was not entitled to possess. differing views of whether the decorated army general needs to resign as the director of the cia after his affair with broadwell became public. >> i come from a tradition that believes in the original sin. none of us is perfect. >> her behavior is not acceptable. it's personally...
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as an old fbi agent, you should prove it first. >> but this is important. you're saying petraeus says, look, i said it was terrorism all along. susan rice told the american people we thought it was spontaneous. there's a disconnect. >> even more important than that, the narrative as it went from the cia to other intelligence agencies was correct. it was an act of terrorism. we knew that. the difference is what happened when it went outside of the intelligence community for, as the senator called it, you know, a committee to look at this thing and make the determination on what the narrative was. the narrative was wrong. and why that's important, this isn't just about parsing words and who was right. there was some policy decisions made based on the narrative that was not consistent with the intelligence that we had. that's my concern. and we need to say, hey, we need to figure out how that happened, and let's make sure that doesn't happen again. >> did people die because we didn't protect them adequately? is that the bottom line here? >> david, we gave the
as an old fbi agent, you should prove it first. >> but this is important. you're saying petraeus says, look, i said it was terrorism all along. susan rice told the american people we thought it was spontaneous. there's a disconnect. >> even more important than that, the narrative as it went from the cia to other intelligence agencies was correct. it was an act of terrorism. we knew that. the difference is what happened when it went outside of the intelligence community for, as the...
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cia and he walked right into one of the most blackmailable situations that you can v good that the fbi found out about it before the russians or the chinese. that is the problem. not that he is a general mess egg around and certainly even though according to the uniform code of military justice, that's not allowed, that's not what the press is focused on. the press is focused on the director of the cia having this problem. >> perhaps the biggest story today is benghazi, blowing up again. republicans, john mccain and lindsey graham and others pushing very, very hard now, getting very vicious in their rhetoric toward ambassador rice and so on. what do you think, at the central plank of this do you believe ambassador rice is at fault or is she as barack obama said, she was merely passion on intelligence? she was not a key player in all of this, therefore, if he wants to make her secretary of state, he can do it. what do you think? >> first of all, i was substituting for george stephanopoulos that sunday as host of "this week." we were trying to get secretary of state hillary clinton, all
cia and he walked right into one of the most blackmailable situations that you can v good that the fbi found out about it before the russians or the chinese. that is the problem. not that he is a general mess egg around and certainly even though according to the uniform code of military justice, that's not allowed, that's not what the press is focused on. the press is focused on the director of the cia having this problem. >> perhaps the biggest story today is benghazi, blowing up again....
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the investigation done by the fbi, but they determined there was no question of loyalty, no national security compromise. they stop. there is another aspect of this thing, suitability for conduct. you can be a patriot, but if you are habitually to excess, that, a problem with the access to classified material. the justice department with all that i don't know why they did it. >> margaret? >> these things are done clandestinely until they are not. love is fleeting, gmamiil isn't. we are addicted to e-mail and we put things in it we don't want to be seen, but we hold the cia director to a higher standard. but i wonder with our military and political figures, to -- if it is in somewhat to elevated now. divorce is soaring in the military. these deployments are hard on families. people are weak and we are stupid in the throes of a romantic affair. do we want to get rid of people like general petraeus when there is no national security breach? the person who should be fired is that fbi agent and all the people who let that go up the chain of command. >> what do you make of that, nina? >> i
the investigation done by the fbi, but they determined there was no question of loyalty, no national security compromise. they stop. there is another aspect of this thing, suitability for conduct. you can be a patriot, but if you are habitually to excess, that, a problem with the access to classified material. the justice department with all that i don't know why they did it. >> margaret? >> these things are done clandestinely until they are not. love is fleeting, gmamiil isn't. we...
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mean while, fbi investigators continue to pour over broadwell's computer and boxes of evidence, taken from her charlotte home to determine if she had classified information she was not entitled to possess. this morning, differing views on whether the decorated army general needed to resign as director of cia after petraeus' affair with his biographer, broadwell, became public. >> i come from a tradition that believes in original sin. none of us is perfect. >> behavior is not acceptable, it's personally unacceptable behavior. >> reporter: his fall from grace has raised questions about how our leading generals live. and their transition to civilian life. four-star generals are surrounded by staff, security teams, valets and chefs, which all disappear when they take off the uniform. >> you see the medals he has. you see the stars. one day, he takes all of that off. it is a major adjustment. i think we need to look at this transitioning of people. >> reporter: feinstein added that is no excuse for petraeus' behavior. the senator also wants to know who authored the talking points on the be
mean while, fbi investigators continue to pour over broadwell's computer and boxes of evidence, taken from her charlotte home to determine if she had classified information she was not entitled to possess. this morning, differing views on whether the decorated army general needed to resign as director of cia after petraeus' affair with his biographer, broadwell, became public. >> i come from a tradition that believes in original sin. none of us is perfect. >> behavior is not...
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the fbi apparently acted by the book. you don't tip off the white house when you're engaging in a potentially criminal investigation. the agent in florida who then worried that the investigation was being stalled and went to a republican congressman who went to eric cantor, he has an illustrious record. he helped bring down the millennium plot. you can't blame him, either, for his apparent concern that this was not being studied appear prop it i can't tellly. so then the story got out, and i think general petraeus has acted honorably in resigning. i think he is going to do fine. he is going to get a book contract. he apparently wants to be president of princeton. he will have a year of probably giving speeches, making a lot of money. i don't feel sorry for him. >> if he wrote a book with the lady who wrote about him, paula broadwell, all in the education of david petraeus. he cooperated practically on the entire book. now he's going to write another book? >> he can write one about himself. he's not the author of this. thi
the fbi apparently acted by the book. you don't tip off the white house when you're engaging in a potentially criminal investigation. the agent in florida who then worried that the investigation was being stalled and went to a republican congressman who went to eric cantor, he has an illustrious record. he helped bring down the millennium plot. you can't blame him, either, for his apparent concern that this was not being studied appear prop it i can't tellly. so then the story got out, and i...
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had every leader of the intelligence community there, including folks from the state department, the fbi, everybody there was asked do you know who made these changes? and nobody knew. the only entity that reviewed the talking points that was not there was the white house. so that -- you know, i don't know whether -- what they said yesterday is exactly right or not, but what i do know is that every member of the intelligence community said that references to al-qaeda were removed by somebody and they don't know who. and references to attacks versus demonstrations were removed by somebody. >> let me ask you a question. will your committee, call on excuse son rice to ask her to testify? >> i don't know the answer to that right now. we will talk about that. we have two more hearings scheduled. >> do you think she will be called? >> she's going to have to come in and of it at some point. whether it's in a closed hearing or open hearing. we will have an open hearing too but at some point she needs to come in and say what the president or the white house directed her to say. >> senator leiberm
had every leader of the intelligence community there, including folks from the state department, the fbi, everybody there was asked do you know who made these changes? and nobody knew. the only entity that reviewed the talking points that was not there was the white house. so that -- you know, i don't know whether -- what they said yesterday is exactly right or not, but what i do know is that every member of the intelligence community said that references to al-qaeda were removed by somebody...
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had every leader of the intelligence community there, including folks from the state department, the fbi. everybody there was asked do you know who made these changes? and nobody knew. the only entity that reviewed the talking points that was not there was the white house. >> independent senator joe leiberman said today a watergate style committee is not needed to figure out answers to the benghazi attacks. >> the senator went on to sort of suggest in very light handed way that he's not quite sure that the white house is telling the truth on this whole thing. all right. doug in washington. thanks. >> well, weeks since super storm sandy slammed on shore and parts of new york city are still struggling to recover. we are live in lower manhattan with the latest on recovery efforts. anna. >> good evening, heather. residents, we just had one come up to us and say she's not going to have power for some eight months. but many of these businesses and residential towers still don't have power or water or heat and don't have reopen dates yet. we are in the south street seaport area, a very historic
had every leader of the intelligence community there, including folks from the state department, the fbi. everybody there was asked do you know who made these changes? and nobody knew. the only entity that reviewed the talking points that was not there was the white house. >> independent senator joe leiberman said today a watergate style committee is not needed to figure out answers to the benghazi attacks. >> the senator went on to sort of suggest in very light handed way that he's...
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former cia director general petraeus and an extramarital affair, a florida socialite, a bare chested fbi agent and is this a concern or a washington smoke screen? >> i don't think anyone on either side of the aisle underestimates the difficulties. >> both sides work to gain the high ground in dealing with the looming fiscal cliff, but the media seem to be one-sided in the details. which side do you think they're on? and it's in with the new, but are the old staying, too. >> oh, you've always asked that question except to mitch mcconnell. >> on the panel this week, writer and fox news contributor judy miller. jove oldman, talk radio and jim pinkerton contributing editor the american conservative magazine, and alan colmes, author of thank liberals for saving america and i'm jon scott, fox news watch is on right now. >> this is about the role she played around four dead americans when it seems to be that the story coming out of the administration and she's the point person, is so disconnected to reality, i don't trust her. and the reason i don't trust her is because i think she knew better
former cia director general petraeus and an extramarital affair, a florida socialite, a bare chested fbi agent and is this a concern or a washington smoke screen? >> i don't think anyone on either side of the aisle underestimates the difficulties. >> both sides work to gain the high ground in dealing with the looming fiscal cliff, but the media seem to be one-sided in the details. which side do you think they're on? and it's in with the new, but are the old staying, too. >>...
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>> mike rodgers is a very decent guy, a former fbi agent. very much into all of this. i think he just kind of went off on a tangent. the white house has said, the president has said that he didn't know before the election. i don't think anybody should be accusing the president of the united states of lying. >> felicia we heard on "meet the press," that there's clear and necessary separation between the justice department and the white house. is it your sense that this is strictly political? that congressman rodgers is just suggesting some sort of a breach there? >> well the first thing that this brings to mind when it comes to his accusation here is back to during the campaign season when harry reid was accusing governor romney of not having paid taxes for ten years. just sort of throwing this statement out there without anything to back it up. it's not too hard to see how this is, is along the same lines as that. and unless he is able to bring forth some kind of evidence there, it's just another baseless claim it seems. >> okay. up next, the big three with their must-
>> mike rodgers is a very decent guy, a former fbi agent. very much into all of this. i think he just kind of went off on a tangent. the white house has said, the president has said that he didn't know before the election. i don't think anybody should be accusing the president of the united states of lying. >> felicia we heard on "meet the press," that there's clear and necessary separation between the justice department and the white house. is it your sense that this is...
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we had the fbi and i believe the national center for counterterrorism also giving briefings. >> paul: that's right. >> saying this. why was general petraeus's testimony then so at odds with other parts of the community? >> but does this, would this give-- what does it mean for, say, susan rice and the administration then? is this, does this help them politically by shielding them or does petraeus here saying i thought it was a terrorist attack, does that mean this puts, for example, susan rice's statements more up to scrutiny? >> well, i think answers the fundamental question, did they deliberately mislead on this case for political reasons because they were driving the narrative that al-qaeda had been decimated and the war, war was receding or a question of incompetence. neither of those two things is good for the administration although it's after the election, so, they can get the consequences. >> let's take a look at the president talking about susan rice, the u.n. ambassador who many think he will nominate to succeed hillary clinton as secretary of state. >> for them to go after
we had the fbi and i believe the national center for counterterrorism also giving briefings. >> paul: that's right. >> saying this. why was general petraeus's testimony then so at odds with other parts of the community? >> but does this, would this give-- what does it mean for, say, susan rice and the administration then? is this, does this help them politically by shielding them or does petraeus here saying i thought it was a terrorist attack, does that mean this puts, for...